RDYSL Board Meeting
Thursday, August 26, 2004
Attendance: Gary Levine, Neil Fisher, Jacky Van Dellon,
Mark Van Dellon, Lou Boyon, Mike Nelson, Joe Walton, Jim Legrett, Tom Laspina,
Peppy Ehrlich, Kurt Knoblach, Mark Arpag, Joe Kehm, Dennis Crowe
Meeting called to order: 7:04pm
1. UNDER 10 Issues
a. Punting a ball in U9 and 10 all the way down
the field - do we need to limit?
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Gary withdraws
this based on previous feedback from Greg and Mike - No rule to be discussed or
added
b. U10 two fees - one for single games ($22)
and double headers ($24) -are we better with a single ref fee?
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Single versus
doubleheader fee, are the savings of $22 vs. $24 worth the administrative
hassle
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Decision - Have a single fee, to be negotiated, $24 fee is acceptable
c. Non-Competitive divisions new rule to allow
substitutions on either teams throw in (Mike N.)
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Gary talked to
a couple of coaches and they didn’t feel it was necessary to create a new rule,
another suggested that this had been done informally between coaches prior to
the game.
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Consensus that
we don’t like creating different rules for different age groups and it is also
difficult on referees
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Jacky -
Proposal to notify U8-U10 coaches that the league supports the following
position, but that it is not a rule. If
prior to game the coaches discuss allowing substitutions on either team’s
throw-in and both coaches agree, that it should be communicated to the referee
that both coaches would like to play the game this way, with the referees
agreement the game will be played that way.
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Decision – Agreement to proceed with Jacky’s proposal
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Action – At the Coaches Meeting advise the coaches that in U8-U10,
coaches may discuss and decide prior to the game to allow substitutions on
either team’s throw-in, if agreed they need to notify the referee and get his
or her consent to proceed accordingly for that game.
2. Scheduling
a. Review of one game a week
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Gary’s informal
survey indicates that this was received positively
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Mark had
started to review the data on game changes to draw conclusion on the impact,
but has not finished pulling it together
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Jacky - DC’s
were buried in the early season by game changes, this may have been due to
field availability (weather, setup of fields)
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Club and town
difficulties in scheduling fields for an earlier start in mid May (mid May
start enables once a week scheduling)
b. Review mid-May start (how many games were moved?)
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Buffalo plays
fewer games in a more condensed season
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Jacky proposes
U9-12 once a week and twice a week there after
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Jacky proposes
U13-19 start after Memorial Day, allow them to use May 15 to Memorial Day to
reschedule
c. Proposal U14-19 should play on weekends
only in May-early June
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Potential issue
referee scheduling
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Action – add a, b, c (one game per week and mid-May start) to the Club
Presidents agenda for discussion
d. Clubs need to
plan for problems with field usage.
Don't
book usage at 100%, this leaves no room for changes (Mark V.)
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Action – add to the Club Presidents agenda - communicate to clubs that they need to plan for problems with field usage. Don't
book usage at 100%, leaving no room for changes or a contingency plan
3. Referee Issues / Rules
a. Three man referee system
i. Results
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It appears that
it did help
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Tom – wasn’t
necessary for girls
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Gary – after
reviewing fine data provided by Mark, the Girls U17 have fewer card infractions
than in Boys U17
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Proposal move
three referee system from U19 Girls to U17 Boys
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Decision – Keep 3 referee system and move three referee system from
Girls U19 to Boys U17
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Action – Communicate this to the Club Presidents and Referees
b. How long do you need to wait for a referee
before starting a game with an alternate referee (remember that ref should be
there 30 minutes before kickoff)?
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Action - Advise the Coaches at the Spring Coaches Meeting - If coaches
have agreed on an alternative referee, the coaches have the right to tell the
referee they are not needed based on the referee having not fulfilled his or
her obligation to be there 30 minutes prior to the game.
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RDYSL will deal
with the referee afterwards on payment issues
c. Game reports
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Need a place on
the game report that explains coach, spectator misconduct (tied to fines). Currently unacceptable is a $25 fine,
coaches felt they got the fine without getting fair warning
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Back of sheet
is available for this
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Neal – feedback
that if there is a special new spot for this on the front of the form, the
coaches will want this to be filled out prior to the coach signing it
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Jacky – there
used to be a poor, fair, good check box for behavior and was used by Jacky to
fine when a bunch of reports had been labeled as “fair” and a pattern of
behavior had been established, it was then determined that this was difficult
for DC’s to judge when a pattern of behavior had been reached, so acceptable
and unacceptable were implemented
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Mark – had
poor, fair and good for player, coach and spectator
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Kurt – how is
acceptable and unacceptable defined? Proposal – remove acceptable /
unacceptable
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Mark – proposal
to remove player because yellow and red cards are the mechanism for
administering behavior with players
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Coaches are
ejected which is the mechanism for administering behavior with coaches, not
given yellow or red cards
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Spectators are
ejected which is the mechanism for administering behavior with coaches, not
given yellow or red cards
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When is a fine
applied? Unacceptable vs. Ejections
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Decision – remove acceptable / unacceptable, removing the circle option and
asking them to write behavioral issues out on the back of the referee report,
fines are applied only when the referee report has a behavioral issue written
out
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Action – remove acceptable / unacceptable circle option on game report
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Proposal –
modify the rules so that we don’t apply the $25 fine unless there is an
explanation on the back of the form
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Proposal –
handle player behavior with cards
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Proposal -
Define minor unacceptable
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Questioning
calls
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Abusive
language
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Illegal
substitutions
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Control of
players
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Staying in
coaches box
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Action - change Rule 502 Minor Coaching Staff Misconduct and
Violations as follows: (underline
indicates adds and strikeouts are deletions)
Section 1
#1
- A minor infraction is when the referee indicates documents
unacceptable coaches (or coaching staff) conduct on the game report. The referee need give no additional
explanation.
#2 – A division coordinator may warn a coach for a first offense but
otherwise the fines are
noted on the annual schedule of fines.
#3 –
Repeated misconduct may warrant an investigation by the Board and action
including, fines, suspensions or other appropriate action.
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Action – change Rule 503 Spectator Misconduct and Violations as
follows:
Section 1
#1 - No change
#2 - No change
#3 – The team and club are responsible for insuring that the
disciplined spectator does not attend a match until the disciplinary period is
completed and until all fines are paid.
Failure to prevent the disciplined spectator from attending will result
in a forfeit.
New #3 – The team will be fined according to (as noted) on the
annual schedule of fines.
#4 –
No change
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Action – delete Rule 503 Spectator Misconduct and Violations Section 2
Penalties in it’s entirety
d. Review referee data
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Position to
take with regards to problem referees
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Action - Compare 2003 data to 2004 data and look for trends indicating
specific referees, results to be used accordingly and as appropriate
e. Referee assessment
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What happened
to the assessment plan that the referees agreed to do?
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Action – Communicate at the Club Presidents Meeting that we did have a
plan with the referees to do assessments for certain referees
f. Referee no shows
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Did DC’s report
game changes to the referee?
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DC’s say they
did report game changes to the referees
g. Have the assignor fee paid to refs by clubs
like what is being done in the RDSL adult league?
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Proposal to
increase game fee by $2.oo to cover assignor fee
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U19 & U17
will be $4.00 per game ($2 for referee & $1 for each assistant referee
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Advantage –
frees up money for RDYSL special programs
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Advantage –
Referee tax issue
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Advantage –
reduces administrative burden on the RDYSL
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Action - Discuss this at the Club Presidents Meeting
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Action - Discuss this with the referees
h. Mark received the referee fee report from
Franz
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$9,345 assignor
bill
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$5,600 assignor
fee + $500 for linesman
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$3,165 fines
etc.
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Action - DC’s need to review the data to determine if the fees are
correct and if there are inappropriate charges that need to be discussed with
the referees
i. Jacky requests that we use game reports with
referee name to match up with referee evaluations data. Mark provided a report that identifies the
game numbers that there is a referee evaluation for. If the DC’s could take this report and match a referee name to
each game identified on Mark’s report, we would not have to be dependent on
waiting for the referees to provide a report
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Action – Mark to send DC’s report of game numbers that there is a
referee evaluation for
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Action – DC’s to review the report that Mark’s report identifying game
numbers that there is a referee evaluation for. Using this report, look up the game report for those game numbers
on the report and match a referee name to each game number on the report.
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The referees
are still required to provide referee names for each game number and we will
continue to pursue the receipt of this data from them
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Total
evaluations received this year were just under 3,000 games and just over 1000
unique evaluations. This is a slight
increase of approximately 10%
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Action - Need to include referee evaluations as an item of discussion
at the Club Presidents meeting and at the Coaches Meeting, emphasize the need
for coaches to do evaluations
4. Lou reviewed 2005 budget draft
5. Shirt Distributions
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Action – Announce shirt distribution at
Club Presidents Meeting
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One
third of the clubs received shirts
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22
girls clubs received 1st or second place shirts, 81%
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22
boys clubs received 1st or second place shirts, 75%
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Feedback
has been positive
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Extra
shirts have gone to some managers, this will mean that all shirts should be
accounted for in distribution
6. Board Meeting
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Action – Add board meeting for
Wednesday September 8, 7:00-9:00pm at MCC
Meeting Adjourned – 9:34pm