RDYSL Board Meeting
Tuesday, August 17, 2004
Attendance: Gary Levine, Neil Fisher, Jacky Van Dellon,
Mark Van Dellon, Lou Boyon, Mike Nelson, Joe Walton, Jim Legrett, Tom Laspina,
Peppy Ehrlich, Kurt Knoblach, Mark Arpag
Guest – Dennis Crowe
Meeting called to order: 7:11pm
1. Review Meeting Minutes from 7/27/04
a. Updates or edits
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No updates or
edits requested
b. Review of actions
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Mike reviewed
actions and recorded status
2. Updated Rules and Bylaws
a. 3 v 4 yellows for suspension
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Mark V.
presented fine summary, 2003 vs. 2004 data
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There was a
drop in red cards YOY
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Mark Arpag felt
that toward the end of the season activity may have increased, but overall this
rule worked to the purpose intended
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Decision - Consensus is that we leave 3 yellow cards as the trigger for
when a suspension levied and required to be served
b. Evaluation of fine policy
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Review of fine
policy/rules
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There was one
fighting offense this season
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There were no
double reds for players
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Decision - Consensus is we will keep fines where they are
c. Evaluation of point deduction policy
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One team lost
first place as a result of this rule
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Were there any
yellow point deductions that resulted in loss of points, there may have been
one in Boys U17-19 (Mark A.)
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Decision - Consensus is in favor of keeping point deduction rule
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Is the
threshold level where we want it? Decision
- Yes
d. Red cards and impact on tournaments
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Gary – believes
this has as big of an impact as any other deterrent
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Jacky – this
should be adjusted, Proposal to give a one hundred dollar deposit to DC to get
card for tournament and deposit back when returning cards
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Neil – DC may
not have the card yet from referee report, so deposit will not be applicable
for everyone wanting their card for the tournament
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Tom – what
about tournament only pass?
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Cost - $1.00
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How many times
did someone ask for a tournament pass this year – maybe 10 times
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Gary – Proposal
keep league policy as is with DC keeping passes and collecting fine, Option for
player to get Tournament pass from registrar for $5.00, DC will direct the
player to the registrar
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Decision – the rules will not be changed, this is a policy that will be
used by DC’s
e. Allow more appeals - do we set up soccer
court?
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Gary heard
consensus is that right to be heard is primary complaint, fine amount is
secondary
Mark - Issue of
referee report is unknown to coach, what was inappropriate, referee report does
not always provide enough detail
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What are the
options
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Gary – Written
appeals reviewed by several
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Jacky – keep
database, three years review of previous offenses, associated with escalating
fine policy
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Mike – build on
Jacky’s option, keep track of referees that are responsible for assigning fines
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Tom – fine is a
range from 50 – 300 and decided by DC
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Jacky – Referee
school…from last week
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Joe – opposing
coach email, witnesses
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Gary – if there
is a mechanism to review, there needs to be a mechanism to lower or increase
the fine
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Joe W – what is
the consensus on ……?
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Gary – Proposal
to form a sub-committee to discuss and propose something to the Board
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Proposal agreed
– Action for Joe W., Jacky, Tom to
make a proposal to the Board
f. Game change rule results – how did the
application of charging $75 work with respect to allowing flexibility while
keeping some deterrent for over use and increased administration?
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34 in season
game changes
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Decision - Consensus is this is the right dollar amount and we keep this
g. Spectator suspension enforcement - Rule 503
Spectator Misconduct and Violations
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Section 1
General
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Decision – No Change
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Section 2 Penalties
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Enforcement –
hard to do
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Proposal 503
Section 2 Penalties – Remove Identified and Unidentified and state Spectator
Infraction with the fine going to the team.
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Decision – Remove Identified and Unidentified, eliminate suspensions and
replace with “Spectator Infraction”
1a First
ejected spectator fine is $150 to the team
1b Second
ejected spectator fine is $300 to the team
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Fine policy for
spectators – Rule 802 Annual Schedule of Fees and Fines Infraction #6
Identified and #7 Unidentified
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Identified
Spectator Misconduct 1st offense – Minimum 1 league game suspension
and $150 fine
o
Identified
Spectator Misconduct 2nd offense - $300 and Minimum 6 league game
suspension and $150 fine
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Decision – Remove Identified and Unidentified, eliminate suspensions and
replace with “Spectator Infraction”
First ejected
spectator fine is $150 to the team
Second ejected
spectator fine is $300 to the team
h. Change
lightning rule to 30 seconds / 30 minutes (Mark V.)
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Decision - Adopting referee position statement of 30 seconds / 30
minutes - Rule 411
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Action – Communicate this at the Club Presidents meeting
i. Proposal to add to rules that goals must be fastened
down. (Mark V.)
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Suggestion to use sandbags as one option
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Decision to change Rule 402 to add
fastened goals and add “field required to be lined and suitably netted”
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Action - Communicate
this at the Club Presidents meeting
j. Revisit the rule for need of player passes to be
present before the start of the game, team forgets them but has them by end of
game (OK Y/N?)(Mark V.)
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Decision - Must be there for beginning of the game, they have 30
minutes, leave this to referee discretion NO Change
k. Proposal to add to rules that the home
team mails in both copies of the game
report to DC when there is a no-show ref.
(Mark V.) Rule 415 Post Game Procedures
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Decision - Add this to rules
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Action - Communicate this at the Club Presidents meeting
l. Proposal to add to protest rules line of
authority for communication DC, gender VP and then the president. (Mark V.) Rule 600 Protests and Appeals
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Decision - Do not add this to rules
m. Proposal to add to rules shake hands(not
a punch, slap, or anything else)(Mark V.)
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Referee is
supposed to watch this
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Decision - Do not add this to rules
n. Proposal to add to rules that in
non-competitive games that substitutions are allowed on either team's throw
in. (Mike N.)
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Action - To be discussed further at next meeting 8/26
3. Field problems or issues?
a. Were sizes better?
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U11 a few
complaints, but generally this was ok
b. Examine the width of the U12-19 full size field in our rules.
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RDYSL Rule 402 Field Dimensions state 80-100
yards for U12-19
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FIFA rules state width of 50-100 yards
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The issue is whether to lower the minimum of 80
yards
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Proposal to document FIFA rules and add RDYSL
suggested range
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Decision – document FIFA rules only
for U12 – U19
4. Budget
a. Review this year’s income and expenses
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Lou –
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Current status
is a couple of $1,000 over proposed budget
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Proposal that
league budget operations (referee assignment) should not be covered by fine
income, operations should be covered by a line item that is predictable (teams
pay referee assignments)
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$6,000 paid for
referee assignments using fine money
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Proposal that
donations be paid from fines, fines used for the good of soccer
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Action – Gary will check with RDSL on their new process of having
teams pay assignor fee ($2) with the referee game fee
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Discuss at next
meeting
5. Protest - Boys U13 game
#2882 Wed 07/21
Fairport v. Gates - regarding a penalty kick issued, if the protest is upheld
would the game become 4 to 4? Score was
Gates Metros 3 v. Fairport Force 4
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Need referee
report in order to make final decision
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Resolution - Gary resolved this by having the coach explain to his team
that their protest has merit and is the correct interpretation of the rules,
but that because it doesn’t impact the standings the protest will be dropped.
6. Travel Vouchers
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There were 55
referee travel vouchers that Joe Walton sent out to the clubs, it is the clubs
responsibility to pay them
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Mainly Kendall,
Livonia, North Rose, Genesee Valley
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Some are
incorrect
7. Next meeting agenda – all items mentioned are already on the
agenda
8. Board Social
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Action – discuss at the next meeting on 8/26
Meeting Adjourned – 9:27pm